Father John Marcus Berg, F.S.S.P. Voris has so applied his intellect. for your information, Im no spring chicken myself. Francis called a protestant minister his brother bishopthe man has an entirely different concept of sacraments, sin, church, juristiction, etc. They do beleive a pope can be a formal herectic and maintain his postion as pope , the new mass is valid all priests are considered vailidy ordained and the bishops in the new rite are fine aswell. Be convinced that He always leaves His runaways with a key to get back into the house. They do not understand epikeia at all it seems to me. Pastor of Queen of the Holy Rosary in Vienna. Oklahoma City, OK ARCHDIOCESAN SYNOD 2022 In the meantime, Im glad to say that I now fully support you and have put my money where my mouth is. When I noticed, however, that his more recent talks include the subjects of Sr. Faustina and divine mercy in a favorable light, I turned him off. To me, devotion to the false divine mercy devotion of Sr. Faustina is an excellent indicator of how modernist a priest is. ** In a Nov. 15 statement, Archbishop Bernard Hebda said the recall of Father Gerard Saguto, FSSP, was taken in response to an issue that had surfaced in trauma counseling undertaken voluntarily by Father Saguto and brought by him to the attention of his superiors. Heck, they dont even tell every person they meet to avoid the Novus Ordo! GOD did it 2. Servant of Our Lady, In exercising one of mine here, it must be said that the Dimond Bros. teach against several Sent.certa teachings of Holy Mother Church. This definition of Tradition is what the FSSP publicly holds as a condition of being received into new church. I read this blog daily.I may post here about 3 times a week, if that, and I would hardly consider what I do hijacking. Likewise he used to criticize the Council for its abject failures. Wolfe to begin attacking the SSPX, and that posture only heightened following the election of Pope Francis. The FSSP is wrong on the doctrine,principles and the new mass. Hi, my2cents, Clarkdale, AZ Father Gerard Saguto, F.S.S.P. Its quite true that President King inherited a very bad financial situation. Gerard Saguto, FSSP, and the liturgical artist, Mr. Paul Sirba. Post Falls, ID As dysfunctional as the Church can be in her human element and she is it is perfect love of Christ Crucified, our Eternal Contemporary as Ven. Edmonton, AB ***All Catholics are called to charity toward neighbor. "I think today a lot of those devotions are missed," Father Stinson said. All of us have a duties as Catholics. Qubec, QC He is EVIL. If you are going to give official platforms to statements rejecting the validity of Vatican II and the Pauline Missal without any public correction or disavowal, you have to be prepared to take the ecclesiastical consequences, whether theyre just or not. Lets be clear these men (again, including the pope) are not synonymous with the Church; rather, they are, objectively speaking, laboring for her destruction. Faith is a gift. Well, I suppose I am one of them, then though I would characterize myself as more than prefer since I exclusively attend the TLM (save for an occasional Melkite liturgy, I suppose), either through an Ecclesia Dei society or diocesan priest, depending on where I am. Colorado Springs, CO SAGUTO - Michael D., on June 12, 2009 of Syosset, NY. But for the Presidents creativity, the College would have failed two years before it did. But just bc it ought to be further delineatd in that separate category for clarity which would take a minute. Thank you for discussing it. As such, he looked upon the SSPX and its purpose for existing with, if not with support, a degree of understanding that is now nonexistent. Dallas, TX Dayton, OH For those who are fans of the old Far Side comic strip by Gary Larson, part of his brilliance was his ability to capture how humanity is prone to missing the obvious. Indeed we are often victims of true prejudice-marginalized as lunatics, bazaare, on the fringe or fringe groups, etc. Youngstown, OH. Regardless of how we categorize the post-conciliar popes, the Traditional movement is best served by sticking together. But the new campus lease turned out not to be sustainable, either, just a reprieve in execution of sentence, and it is astonishing to me that he thought it could be otherwise. Thank you for this honest report, Mr. Verrecchio. For these past years weve all been discussing how Pope Francis couldnt care less about dogma, doctrine, rules and rubrics. Ive recently come across many of his sermons online and found them to be quite useful. Simon Harkins, FSSP as we begin the conversation on August 31st, featuring a fascinating interview with Abby Johnson on her pro-life work and her recent discovery of the beauty of the sacred liturgy. Why all the differences in opinion here ??. Dear Louie, We really have no idea what pressure these FSSP priests are under. We know where these attacks are coming from they are coming from the standard of Satan. I got news for all of us here. That man left MUCH to be desired..even my 18 year old son (at the time) was appalled by the mans evasiveness over extremely serious matters of the Faith. This is rich: Voris mentioning those who dont really know very much at all about the SSPX as he gets even the most basic facts completely wrong. Chesapeake, VA ***The aforementioned Catholics do not include the SSPX, who fit into a seperate category, not to be further delineated here, not bc it's complicated-it's not. It was sent in by a parishoner when the FSSP got the personal parish. I do not claim, presume or pretend to belong to an exclusive club. His position hardened somewhat in his final years (during which, I might maintain, he probably still would have sprung for either the 2000 or 2012 structure deals offered to Fellay, based on what I know of them), but the fact is that he really did try to work obediently if it would be allowed, even to a papacy that was increasingly singing a modernist hymn. The Eichman twins join their older brother as an FSSP priest, with a younger Eichman brother still training at the seminary. Gerard Saguto, admits that further explanation regarding Fr. Think of it as pulling back the curtain on the little man of OZ (Voris). I was still reading his blog almost daily when it all transpired, and can remember it not sitting well with me after hearing his explanations. Clearly many of them have the Faith and are holy. Whether an FSSP supporter is willing to admit it or not, he implicitly accepts the orthodoxy, legitimacy and/or intrinsic goodness of the Novus Ordo, ecumenism, religious liberty, communion in the hand, liturgical dance, server-ettes, It was not accepted due to faulty translations. (opposite to voris) I would imagine quite the opposite, im sure this approach has caused louie a great deal of problems as of late. Fort Wayne, IN In charity, I pray that every Catholic should be as blessed. This is the will of God, your sanctification (1 Thess 4:3). Dear de Maria nunquam satis, There are validly consecrated priests & bishops worldwide to shepherd & provide (valid-it must be noted,) Sacraments to the faithful by the thousands. http://youtu.be/eXxOLNRBdXw. Unfortunately, people who follow Bergoglio are not Catholic. 4th group SSPX canonically founded by Archbishop Marcel Lefebvre in 1970. Will the FSSP issue a public statement in support of the SSPX and debunk the schism myth? But not so with you, you came forth to talk. Fort Myers, FL Father Flood has served his term(s) and is more than ready to go back to parish work. They remind me of that commercial where the woman walks up to the counter to pay for something and the girl says, I need to see your I.D. and the woman says, But Im your Mother! It has been my experience time and again that fellow Trads, who later support the sedevacantist position, want nothing to do with family or friends who do not take this position. The Morning of Recollection will be open to all men including non-parishioners and will include a conference by Fr. . The question of the FSSP really is a question of doctrine,principle and new mass. Views and opinions expressed in the Missive are solely the writers and do not necessarily reflect those of the Priestly Fraternity of St. Peter. (See above. Not good enough for some here. Philadelphia, PA Catholics are STILL watching and waiting. From Archbishop Bernard A. Hebda: I was notified Friday, November 8 that Father Gerard Saguto, FSSP, was recalled from his assignment as pastor of the Church of All Saints in Minneapolis by his religious community, the Priestly Fraternity of Saint Peter. Rather, a home is ultimately an interaction between personalities that are supposed to be loving each other spouses, parents, children, siblings, grandparents. FSSP pastors are . Our Lady of Guadalupe Seminary http://theradicalcatholic.blogspot.com/2015/09/vortex-of-plagiarism.html. If you dont mind-consider a few thingsyou dont have to respond-this is not a challenge. Gruner was yet, so I looked past it in ignorance. This is sophomoric at best. Ill leave it to you to decide if the jihadist with the cash in hand played a part in influencing Voris to reinvent himself. Seattle, WA Lots of us jump in to visit Mr.V., in the midst of raising broods of children & grandchildren, juggling this and that, including old age & a long time witnessing the collapse since before 1963 for example. Sacramento, CA If interested, you can contact her at 612-450-0273 or gemmarose974@gmail.com. Anyone who reads Louies blog should, by now, have developed an awareness of the dismal state of affairs in the Church. Lincoln, NE Domus Generalis FSSP - Chemin du Schoenberg 8 - CH-1700 Fribourg (Suisse) . Honestly, we all need to be quite compassionate towards one another and realize that we know nothing about each other except that we love the Faith. 2nd group those that attend TLM this can range from someone who may attend a weekday TLM or sunday TLM but who still likes to be involved with their local parish and who sees no problem with new mass. Look more closely into the factions and personalities in and around Irving that split up Fisher Moore College around 2012-14, and you just may find your answers as to whose motives now motivate whom. However, sadly, the impression is often given that this is not the case. So I hope we can say that we whole heartedly agree that such warm discourse between sedevacanists & Catholics who oppose is the way not only that it should be, but it is the way we are called to be. Why did the SSPX priest so advise certain persons? That photo credit is Fr. That reality is irrelevant to the objective errors of the FSSP which are public. Thats Mr. V.s job. If I found myself in a place where only an SSPX or Norvus Ordo were available, I would choose the SSPX, hands down, and I would know it was valid thanks to Fr. Ive seen this story play out more than once before. To be a contributing part of this effort requires that our Lord possesses a key place in our hearts. For anyone who wishes to gain knowledge on the position, the information is out there. He also is a member of that parish, and the words he used to describe Fr. After being established, North American Martyrs Parish offered its Masses at St. Alphonsus Parish in the Ballard neighborhood of Seattle, with the exception of a single Low Mass every Sunday at Holyrood Cemetery in Shoreline. 6th group sedevacantism those who belong to this group regard the chair of peter vacant there are different variations/groups of sedevacantism but mainly beleive there hastnt been a true pope since the death of pope pius xii 1958.1 of the main reasons they beleive this is that a formal herectic cannot hold office and therefore places himself outside the church. http://youtu.be/S_vwwajyASI. Michael Voris has a bee in his bonnet and he has boxed himself into lambasting a group that just goes about its business without giving him any attention at all. The circumstances surrounding the departure of the French-Canadian priest from the Fraternity were a mystery. I implore you to never cease telling your story. Nor are they interested in hearing the kind of drivel spewed out by piokolby, rich and others. You are remeniscent of the UBS Executive in the Classic Satire, Network, having turned Michael Voris into Howard Beale and all the Innanity which followed. Thank you for your kind response which I believe to be as sincere as my question. The SSPX is not and never has been in schism. Fraternity Publications Will the FSSP tell Voris PUBLICLY that he does not have permission to use FSSP sermons in his attacks on other Catholics in print or in audio and that his view that the SSPX is in schism is not the OFFICIAL position of the FSSP? We are not just dealing with infighting we are dealing with Satanic attacks by false brethren and wolves in sheeps clothing. 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